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Bad parents that are raising children
Topic Started: Dec 2 2011, 09:50 PM (1,293 Views)
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Parents are always over the news. In my local news a parent left a baby in a truck because he didn't want his brat inside the place where he was going. The guy says he couldn't find a baby sitter so he just left him in the truck. He said quote on quote he would rather have the baby die or be missing than him annoying people inside the food place. He says he doesn't want to be a bad parent to other people. It was last year during this time that a man got arrested because he left his baby at home because his wife was arguing with him and she left. He didn't have anyone besides his wife to watch the baby so he left him at home by himself. He said that he didn't want to get fired and he didn't want to risk taking the baby to his job.

The worst one is probably the oldest story. Now this story is a bit old to be honest but I think I remember. The mother was going on a plane to New York but the son wanted to go. I think the son was 1 or 2 years old. But the mother did let him go. The mother said she could have easily brought him with no problem but she said he would have been a brat on the plane to other parents. But when the son ask for the last time the mother slap the child in front of the husband. Now I forgot how it ends but i think they went to the hospital. Either way what do you guys think of parents? Do you that anyone can be one or something else? Also what you think of the news stories.
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I think social sevices need to get their act together.

I know they're not to blame but they wait far too long before they do anything about anything it's pathetic these kind of things get flagged up to them all the time but they don't do something until something happens.
Most of the time they take kids away from the innocent parents like when a child falls and gets a mark on its head.
Not everybody is out to kill their child its easy to tell when the child just had an accident, it happens, childen aren't the most perfectly mobile beings in the world.
Some people just shouldn't be allowed kids, period.

That mother was pretty stupid too though she should have realised her husband/boyfriend was not a responsible human being and took her child with her.
I mean c'mon how can you not tell when you're living with a bastard like that!
You shouldn't abandon your child just because of some stupid arguement or anything else not ever. If you make the commitment to have a child looking after it should be your TOP priority and if you can't handle that put it up for adoption instead of being a selfish prick.
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Steve that's not true about social services. It's a common misconception that all they do is split up families. They actually aim to do the complete opposite of that. It's actually more often that they haven't been able to help a child or a family because of paperwork issues and things have ended up in the ***** because of it. But they do try to help families more than they take children away, which is always a last resort. Because they understand that children always do better in life with their own families.


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It partly is I guess it depends where you live my mother works with them(she's not a proper social worker she takes the kids out and stuff like that) they're actually pretty lazy about it. Until the child is in dire need of help or if they get contacted by the family, which obviously doesn't happen much in child abuse situations.
It's mostly because people hear about those and it makes them look bad most days my mom comes home she's pissed off about what the people are like there. Very few actually give a crap about the kids they just do what they're told they don't aim to help just do their job.
I've met quite a lot of the people from her work and they're all pretty snooty and condescending, to everyone .

They only really bother much when it's a child less than 5 years old if they're over 8 they pretty much instantly send them in to care or a foster family even for silly little things like the kids parents getting divorced.
It's quite sad really the care homes are chock full of young tearaways that never got any help and grew up to be exactly like their parents.

Not *****fing all the blame on social services just it is their job to help and they don't help enough they're good at bigging themselves up when they do something that gets in the news but anything else they rarely try 100% at.

I assume you've all heard of that baby that got left in a bin? Being eaten by ants.
That is disgusting I hope whatever sicko done that gets caught and gets what they deserve.
Imagine how the baby would feel it's obviously going to be totally helpless.
Makes me sick.
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Or maybe you should stop blaming a parent? Child rearing has become harder and harder. Discipline is a harder thing to teach, responsibility is even worse. I think my generation was the first sign of truly spoiled children, and it's progressively gotten worse. My generation is now at the point where they're starting to raise children, and to be honest with all the things that allow you to be a successful parent and instilling proper morals and mentalities in your children are all but gone. If I told my dad or my grand parents to go ***** them selves you know what would happen? I'd prolly get the ***** kicked out of me. Now? It's 100% acceptable to tell your parents to shove a broom handle up their *****. Threaten them with social services and you're off the hook. It's ridiculous.

Children are at the core the problem. Today's children are tomorrow's parents. It starts with the infrastructure that's been established by society.
Edited by Fulgore, Dec 3 2011, 03:08 AM.
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This topic isn't about bad children. It's about bad parents. And believe or not there are enough of them out there. Bad parents create bad children. Are you implying that it's a babies fault if it's left to starve to death in it's pram because the mother would rather be on a drinking binge for 3 days straight?

How about a woman across ths street from me? Her toddler was basically left to do what ever it wanted around the house. No supervision at all. Her excuse was "well if it hurts itself then it will learn from it's mistake and won't do it again." She's since desrvedly had all three of her children taken into care. She never even cleaned her house.

Yeah sometimes children can be *****. But it's hardly society's fault. If you blame all of your child's poor behaviour on society without accepting that maybe you actually had more to do with it, then it's no wonder it's a tear away. Take a good long look at your own parenting skills before blaming it on everything else. Because 99% of the time, if your child is a little ***** then it's the parent's fault.


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Pelador, try reading my post next time.

PARENTS WERE CHILDREN.

PARENTS TODAY WERE RAISED WRONG WHEN THEY WERE CHILDREN.

It's not parents to day, it's parents 20 years ago.

It's called a DOWNWARD Spiral. Society has bred the idea that it's okay to be a rebellious punk and tell your parents to go ***** themselves.. This leads to you getting knocked up at 13.

This also leads to CHILDREN Growing up to be SPOILED. LAZY. AND IRRESPONSIBLE.
Parents aren't the problem. Society IS THE REASON THIS HAS HAPPENED. It's the reason the whole damn country has fallen apart.

Good Parents don't exist anymore. There's laws in place to stop it.
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That is an absolute crock of *****. You sound like your quoting that straight from Fox News or something. Yeah I agree a lot of adults were probably raised badly. Because they didn't have the child protection laws and social services we have now. However I read your post and you said nothing of the sort. You just blamed it on an apperant morally bankrupt society. Which is bull*****. Society is better than it's ever been.

Good parents don't exist anymore? That's a nice generalisation you have there. I can tell your for a fact that that is a flawed statement.


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Overall I see today's kids (and current parents) as a victim of today's society. Things like the internet and video games are always constantly throwing information at kids and when they're in school or doing something mannerly, it's labeled as boring automatically since they're not being exposed to a constant attentive stream of interactive information. The education and community system needs an overhaul to become more interactive or things are going to go straight downhill. Today our education systems are just a factory line.

I see today's "selfish" parents (obviously there are many that aren't) as victims as well. They're exposed to one of the most "me" generation societies of all time where satisfying needs for "me" comes before anything. I don't know how to solve the "me" generation situation and I'm not gonna pretend I do.

I'm not saying the victims are justified in what they do. But if anything's gonna be fixed the root of the problem has to addressed first.

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I can agree with that to some extent. Especially the me generation thing. It's quite straight forward making sure you're child doesn't become a selfish, spoilt brat though really. I mean, all you have to do is not give them everything they ask for. Give them plenty of books to read and encourage them to read from an early age, don't sit them in front of the tv all day.

I know that may be difficult for some parents who work all day and on weekends. But how hard is it to limit the amount of television and Xbox your children have? How hard is it to say no you can't have a phone or an ipod? My answer is not very. Of course one day I'll be able to put my theory to the test that raising a half decent child is not rocket science and actually just involves a bit of common sense and responsibility on my part. I can guarentee you that your arguements that society is damaging our children has been going on for centuries. Whether it's rock and roll music or the pre raphelite movement. It's been going on forever.


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I can agree with that to some extent. Especially the me generation thing. It's quite straight forward making sure you're child doesn't become a selfish, spoilt brat though really. I mean, all you have to do is not give them everything they ask for. Give them plenty of books to read and encourage them to read from an early age, don't sit them in front of the tv all day.

I know that may be difficult for some parents who work all day and on weekends. But how hard is it to limit the amount of television and Xbox your children have? How hard is it to say no you can't have a phone or an ipod? My answer is not very. Of course one day I'll be able to put my theory to the test that raising a half decent child is not rocket science and actually just involves a bit of common sense and responsibility on my part. I can guarentee you that your arguements that society is damaging our children has been going on for centuries. Whether it's rock and roll music or the pre raphelite movement. It's been going on forever.
No. You honestly can't.

60 years ago people went to church every sunday.

Today I'd say maybe a third if that go to church.

Society has degraded, work ethic has degraded. MORALS HAVE DEGRADED.

in the 50s I bet you didn't have a lot of 13 year old pregnancies.

If you knocked your girlfriend up, you married her. IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. You don't get that today, why? Because it's socially acceptable to be a dead beat dad.

No Pelador, you're not making legitimate points.

You want to talk about how soceity's better than ever?

Conservatives made this country what was so great. Conservative is anything but what this country stands for now. Welcome to the USS USA, sinking and dilapidated.
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Are you now implying that 1950's America was a better place to live? Because I don't think I even need to point out why that is wrong on so many levels.

Morals haven't degraded. We just think different things are immoral than what people did 60 years ago. I can guarantee you that there were more teen pregnancies in the 1950's than there are today. They had less sex education, they rarely used contraception and abortions were dangerous.

Not everyone got married just because they got their girlfriend pregnant. And it doesn't make you a deadbeat dad just because you're not married to your girlfriend when she's with child.

I don't live in your country. I don't know what it's like to live where you do. But we have a conservative government here and it's rubbish. Made a right mess of things.



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Pretty sure this is pertaining to US Parents pelador.
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Pretty sure this is pertaining to US Parents pelador.
It's ok. A lot of people here seem to know more about America than Americans.


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I didn't see anything indicating this was only about Americans. Pretty sure there are bad parents where ever you go.

Men who beat seven shades of ***** of their seven year old daughter for leaving her barbie on the stairs. Or sneak into her room at night and... you can probably guess. Mothers who do everything but notice they even have a child to look after. Or you get the complete opposite where the child is spoilt rotten. No consequences for anything they do. Or just as bad as that, people who sometimes let their child get away with murder but then give them ***** for something really trivial later on.


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